Meeting Notes 2/3/11

 

Spanish Immersion Meeting Notes - 2/3/11
I. What is Immersion 

     a. Create students that are proficient in Spanish
     b. Students that are exceeding all standard guidelines 
     c. Additive bilingualism – adding to their brain development 
II. How it is designed
     a. Preschool – 100% Spanish 
     b. Kindergarten- 100% Spanish 
     c. 1st grade- 100% Spanish 
     d. 2nd – 30 minutes a day English Instruction
     e. 3rd- 45 minutes a day English Instruction 
     f. 4th- 1 hour a day in English Instruction 
     g. 5th- 1.5 hours a day English Instruction 
     h. 6th-12th grade: Maintenance 
           • last point of entry is 1st grade 
           • add a new grade level each year: one or two new classrooms 
III. Research
     a. Benefits 
           • Cognitive benefits 
                1. Negotiation of meaning 
           • Academic benefits
                1. At or above grade level 
           • Social benefits
                1. Preparing students to live in the world today 
                2. What does God’s kingdom look like? 
                     a. Relate to God’s kingdom 
                     b. Matthew 28:19
                     c. Acts 2:6- speaking in tongues 
                     d. I Corinthians 9:19-23
           • On which side of the gap will your child fall? 
IV. Question and Answer time 
      a. Second and third graders open to?  
           • Depends on survey- P-1st 
     b. Requirements for teachers? 
           • College Spanish teachers not equipped to teach in the language 
           • Brought teachers in from other areas 
           • Superior or native like proficient level 
     c. How do we help them with homework? 
           • Sitting physically reading with your child
           • Math comes home in English
           • Newsletter information 
           • Read at home to your children in English

     d. Separation of kids
           • Christian program? 
           • Primary goal- love God and love kids
           • Both programs to give equal value 
           • Unity building steps to help 
           • Transforming the school in so many ways – broader view of the world 
           • Not in the program a touch of culture to a different parts of the world 
           • Spills over into the whole school 
     e. Standardized testing
           • 1st grade 
     f. Best practices
           • State standards 
           • Focus on language arts 
           • CSI in Spanish (K-5 is done) 
           • Meeting same goals just in Spanish 
           • High level of Spanish in developmentally appropriate way 
           • Same as traditional curriculum that we have 
     g. Current Spanish program if it does not pass? 
           • Yes 
     h. High School? 
           • Maintenance 
     i. Financial – 
           • Growth slow and calculated
           • Rooms- new teachers? 
           • Short term and long term plans 
           • Facts on growth
           • Other countries – know more than one 
     j. Whose standards do they use in Bible and History? 
           • History and Bible 
           • Standards and benchmarks every 7 years 
           • Do not let the textbooks drive the standards and benchmarks 
     k. Book learning from the stranger 
     l. Stats
           • See data 
           • Links posted on the website (David) 
     m. Academic performance
           • Higher raise the bar in Spanish higher reading skills go up 
     n. Early reading invention 
           • Struggling learner is a struggling learner 
           • Struggle classrooms equally 
           • English as well as Spanish support
           • One class first few years 
     o. Would you recommend one direction or another? 
           • No would not say that 
     p. Teacher from Reformed perspective
     q. Don’t convey frustration to your child 
     r. Handbook- link on the website 
     s. Timeline 
           • Feasibility study 
           • Surveys out there 
           • Education committee- February 14 
           • End of March- direction going 
     t. Special needs- Speech 
           • Articulation 
           • Speech kids – same speech help as other kids 
     u. Minimum size
           • 20 – 25 students 
     v. FLES vs. Immersion 
           • Have FLES right now 
     w. Financially commitment to Christian education 
           • If – out of traditional program? 
           • No desire for English subsidized 
           • Not one program support another one
     x. Staffing? 
           • Worst case scenario 
     y. Last grade to start first grade? 
           • Disadvantage to start in K
           • Time spent in the language 
           • Don’t gain fluency just proficiency 
     z. Format of preschool looking at
           • Curriculum in any way 
     aa. Extra resources for older kids 
           • Rosetta stone

 

 

 

Spanish Immersion 2/16/12

Question  & Answer (with Bill Van Dyke)

v Stacey Vanden Bosch about add a lingua from Michigan

Ø  Immersion- additive bilingual program

Ø  Grade level expectations

Ø  Why?

§  Cognitive Benefits

§  Academic Benefits

§  Social Benefits

Ø  Mission of the Christian School

§  Matthew 28:19

§  Acts 2:6

§  I Corinthians 9:19-23

 

v Bill Van Dyke- principal at Zeeland Christian Schools

Ø  Kids are learning are everything in Spanish and parents don’t know any Spanish what does it look like

§  Don’t try to learn it or speak it- talk to them in English

§  Read English books

§  Tested in Spanish in Spanish and English – Spanish did as well in English or better than just the kids in English

§  Send the homework home in English

§  Newsletter comes home in English what happens in the classroom and what happens at home

Ø  Student finds learning fun and easy vs. struggle with learning

§  Love School- Love English or Spanish

§  SI is the only thing that is hard is auditory learners

·      Any learning issue will carry over no matter what the language

·      Bilingual C student

Ø  Emotional kids?

§  Support is the same in English and Spanish

§  Portray confidence to your child

Ø  Once one of your children does that guarantee a spot for younger child

§  Preschool in Spanish Immersion they are in the program for life

§  Same process for a 2nd child

Ø  What percentages of kids are in SI?  How to kids relate socially to each other?

§  Started out with 40 in K/1st

§  18/20 in P Now 292

§  One-third are in SI

§  6th graders go to camp – to pull together and get together

§  First class or two going through pave the way

§  Mixed for P.E

§  Recess together

 

Ø  Registration is limited

§  March 9

§  Class list and waiting list

 

Ø  How will the K/1 class progress

§  K/1 split class 14/14

§  1st/2nd 14/14 through 6th grade

§  6th graders join other students

§  5th grade- combination class or small class that year

 

Ø  How do deal with K and 1st graders?

§  Worked great in SI

§  Split for a while and then they merged into 2

 

Ø  Original families take their kids out of the program?

§  2 kids really dedicated to homeschooling

§  Retention rate is incredibly high

§  More in retention in SI than regular school

 

Ø  Blend the grades together or half in 3rd grade and half in 4th?

§  Literacy block time

§  Split all the way through – rotate curriculum

§  Split the students in the same room for literacy and math

§  Curriculum we have right now in English class will be the same in the Spanish classroom
 

Ø  What if the interest is big will be go for two classes?

§  White elephant in the room

§  Enough time to react to the waiting list

§  March 9 to react to the waiting list

§  Maybe

 

Ø  Learning disabilities?

§  Resource rooms

§  We can tell if there is a learning issue in either language

§  Reading can be tricky

§  One on one

§  It is not a cognitive issue it is developmental

§  Reading at grade level in Spanish language they are fine

§  Case by case evaluation

 

Ø  Qualification for the teachers/experience in American curriculum and American schools

§  Every school is unique

§  Native speaker and being a teacher

§  Add a lingua helps with Immersion training

§  Standards for teachers is high – apply, interview, teach a lesson

 

 

 

Ø  Work with families who have kids too old for the family?

§  Diversity enhances everything

§  Encourages other family members to learn languages as well

§  Different is cool

 

Ø  Memory Work/Bible in Spanish

§  Read it in English enough at home and they will memorize it in Spanish too

 

Ø  How do we involve potential student in the decision making process

§  Did not involve son

§  Was not happy at first but loved it

 

Ø  Spanish and then to One To Grow on then K option?

§  Spanish preschool 100% sure that they will go to K the next year

 

Ø  Money? Preferential treatment?

§  No preferential treatment

§  Funding- budgeted for 50 K 50 1st  (in 2012)

§  Preschool intention forms

 

Ø  Fair to limit the class size?

§  Not going to make the decision until after March 9

 

 

Ø  Add a lingua (Biblical teaching)?

§  Biblical component and include it in our Christian schools

§  Books on reading list (literacy)

§  K-5 (secular reading program) – teachers integrate Biblical into the texts

 

Ø  Add a lingua

§  Teaching training and professional development

§  Hands on training

·      Summer and again in the fall

§  Online support system and the Immersion staff

 

Ø  Help out and volunteer as a room mom

§  Parent folder

§  Cheat sheet for Spanish in the classroom

§  Jobs who want to help but not use Spanish

§  Protect the integrity in the Spanish classroom

·      Parents feel involved and included

§  2nd grade- English language arts works as wellSpanish Immersion

Question  & Answer (with Bill Van Dyke)

February 16, 2012 at 7:00 in gym

 

v Stacey Vanden Bosch about add a lingua from Michigan

Ø  Immersion- additive bilingual program

Ø  Grade level expectations

Ø  Why?

§  Cognitive Benefits

§  Academic Benefits

§  Social Benefits

Ø  Mission of the Christian School

§  Matthew 28:19

§  Acts 2:6

§  I Corinthians 9:19-23

 

v Bill Van Dyke- principal at Zeeland Christian Schools

Ø  Kids are learning are everything in Spanish and parents don’t know any Spanish what does it look like

§  Don’t try to learn it or speak it- talk to them in English

§  Read English books

§  Tested in Spanish in Spanish and English – Spanish did as well in English or better than just the kids in English

§  Send the homework home in English

§  Newsletter comes home in English what happens in the classroom and what happens at home

Ø  Student finds learning fun and easy vs. struggle with learning

§  Love School- Love English or Spanish

§  SI is the only thing that is hard is auditory learners

·      Any learning issue will carry over no matter what the language

·      Bilingual C student

Ø  Emotional kids?

§  Support is the same in English and Spanish

§  Portray confidence to your child

Ø  Once one of your children does that guarantee a spot for younger child

§  Preschool in Spanish Immersion they are in the program for life

§  Same process for a 2nd child

Ø  What percentages of kids are in SI?  How to kids relate socially to each other?

§  Started out with 40 in K/1st

§  18/20 in P Now 292

§  One-third are in SI

§  6th graders go to camp – to pull together and get together

§  First class or two going through pave the way

§  Mixed for P.E

§  Recess together

 

Ø  Registration is limited

§  March 9

§  Class list and waiting list

 

Ø  How will the K/1 class progress

§  K/1 split class 14/14

§  1st/2nd 14/14 through 6th grade

§  6th graders join other students

§  5th grade- combination class or small class that year

 

Ø  How do deal with K and 1st graders?

§  Worked great in SI

§  Split for a while and then they merged into 2

 

Ø  Original families take their kids out of the program?

§  2 kids really dedicated to homeschooling

§  Retention rate is incredibly high

§  More in retention in SI than regular school

 

Ø  Blend the grades together or half in 3rd grade and half in 4th?

§  Literacy block time

§  Split all the way through – rotate curriculum

§  Split the students in the same room for literacy and math

§  Curriculum we have right now in English class will be the same in the Spanish classroom
 

Ø  What if the interest is big will be go for two classes?

§  White elephant in the room

§  Enough time to react to the waiting list

§  March 9 to react to the waiting list

§  Maybe

 

Ø  Learning disabilities?

§  Resource rooms

§  We can tell if there is a learning issue in either language

§  Reading can be tricky

§  One on one

§  It is not a cognitive issue it is developmental

§  Reading at grade level in Spanish language they are fine

§  Case by case evaluation

 

Ø  Qualification for the teachers/experience in American curriculum and American schools

§  Every school is unique

§  Native speaker and being a teacher

§  Add a lingua helps with Immersion training

§  Standards for teachers is high – apply, interview, teach a lesson

 

 

 

Ø  Work with families who have kids too old for the family?

§  Diversity enhances everything

§  Encourages other family members to learn languages as well

§  Different is cool

 

Ø  Memory Work/Bible in Spanish

§  Read it in English enough at home and they will memorize it in Spanish too

 

Ø  How do we involve potential student in the decision making process

§  Did not involve son

§  Was not happy at first but loved it

 

Ø  Spanish and then to One To Grow on then K option?

§  Spanish preschool 100% sure that they will go to K the next year

 

Ø  Money? Preferential treatment?

§  No preferential treatment

§  Funding- budgeted for 50 K 50 1st  (in 2012)

§  Preschool intention forms

 

Ø  Fair to limit the class size?

§  Not going to make the decision until after March 9

 

 

Ø  Add a lingua (Biblical teaching)?

§  Biblical component and include it in our Christian schools

§  Books on reading list (literacy)

§  K-5 (secular reading program) – teachers integrate Biblical into the texts

 

Ø  Add a lingua

§  Teaching training and professional development

§  Hands on training

·      Summer and again in the fall

§  Online support system and the Immersion staff

 

Ø  Help out and volunteer as a room mom

§  Parent folder

§  Cheat sheet for Spanish in the classroom

§  Jobs who want to help but not use Spanish

§  Protect the integrity in the Spanish classroom

·      Parents feel involved and included

§  2nd grade- English language arts works as wellSpanish Immersion

Question  & Answer (with Bill Van Dyke)

February 16, 2012 at 7:00 in gym

 

v Stacey Vanden Bosch about add a lingua from Michigan

Ø  Immersion- additive bilingual program

Ø  Grade level expectations

Ø  Why?

§  Cognitive Benefits

§  Academic Benefits

§  Social Benefits

Ø  Mission of the Christian School

§  Matthew 28:19

§  Acts 2:6

§  I Corinthians 9:19-23

 

v Bill Van Dyke- principal at Zeeland Christian Schools

Ø  Kids are learning are everything in Spanish and parents don’t know any Spanish what does it look like

§  Don’t try to learn it or speak it- talk to them in English

§  Read English books

§  Tested in Spanish in Spanish and English – Spanish did as well in English or better than just the kids in English

§  Send the homework home in English

§  Newsletter comes home in English what happens in the classroom and what happens at home

Ø  Student finds learning fun and easy vs. struggle with learning

§  Love School- Love English or Spanish

§  SI is the only thing that is hard is auditory learners

·      Any learning issue will carry over no matter what the language

·      Bilingual C student

Ø  Emotional kids?

§  Support is the same in English and Spanish

§  Portray confidence to your child

Ø  Once one of your children does that guarantee a spot for younger child

§  Preschool in Spanish Immersion they are in the program for life

§  Same process for a 2nd child

Ø  What percentages of kids are in SI?  How to kids relate socially to each other?

§  Started out with 40 in K/1st

§  18/20 in P Now 292

§  One-third are in SI

§  6th graders go to camp – to pull together and get together

§  First class or two going through pave the way

§  Mixed for P.E

§  Recess together

 

Ø  Registration is limited

§  March 9

§  Class list and waiting list

 

Ø  How will the K/1 class progress

§  K/1 split class 14/14

§  1st/2nd 14/14 through 6th grade

§  6th graders join other students

§  5th grade- combination class or small class that year

 

Ø  How do deal with K and 1st graders?

§  Worked great in SI

§  Split for a while and then they merged into 2

 

Ø  Original families take their kids out of the program?

§  2 kids really dedicated to homeschooling

§  Retention rate is incredibly high

§  More in retention in SI than regular school

 

Ø  Blend the grades together or half in 3rd grade and half in 4th?

§  Literacy block time

§  Split all the way through – rotate curriculum

§  Split the students in the same room for literacy and math

§  Curriculum we have right now in English class will be the same in the Spanish classroom
 

Ø  What if the interest is big will be go for two classes?

§  White elephant in the room

§  Enough time to react to the waiting list

§  March 9 to react to the waiting list

§  Maybe

 

Ø  Learning disabilities?

§  Resource rooms

§  We can tell if there is a learning issue in either language

§  Reading can be tricky

§  One on one

§  It is not a cognitive issue it is developmental

§  Reading at grade level in Spanish language they are fine

§  Case by case evaluation

 

Ø  Qualification for the teachers/experience in American curriculum and American schools

§  Every school is unique

§  Native speaker and being a teacher

§  Add a lingua helps with Immersion training

§  Standards for teachers is high – apply, interview, teach a lesson

 

 

 

Ø  Work with families who have kids too old for the family?

§  Diversity enhances everything

§  Encourages other family members to learn languages as well

§  Different is cool

 

Ø  Memory Work/Bible in Spanish

§  Read it in English enough at home and they will memorize it in Spanish too

 

Ø  How do we involve potential student in the decision making process

§  Did not involve son

§  Was not happy at first but loved it

 

Ø  Spanish and then to One To Grow on then K option?

§  Spanish preschool 100% sure that they will go to K the next year

 

Ø  Money? Preferential treatment?

§  No preferential treatment

§  Funding- budgeted for 50 K 50 1st  (in 2012)

§  Preschool intention forms

 

Ø  Fair to limit the class size?

§  Not going to make the decision until after March 9

 

 

Ø  Add a lingua (Biblical teaching)?

§  Biblical component and include it in our Christian schools

§  Books on reading list (literacy)

§  K-5 (secular reading program) – teachers integrate Biblical into the texts

 

Ø  Add a lingua

§  Teaching training and professional development

§  Hands on training

·      Summer and again in the fall

§  Online support system and the Immersion staff

 

Ø  Help out and volunteer as a room mom

§  Parent folder

§  Cheat sheet for Spanish in the classroom

§  Jobs who want to help but not use Spanish

§  Protect the integrity in the Spanish classroom

·      Parents feel involved and included

§  2nd grade- English language arts works as well